This post was published in April of 2014 shortly after Rainmaker was released. The pricing has increased along with many additional features and functionality that make it even better. I’ll be writing an updated review very soon.
I’ve been eagerly awaiting the release of the New Rainmaker Platform for months. Billed as “a hosted turn-key online marketing and digital sales platform designed to give you everything you need to build your business by building an audience,” It’s the exact tools that Copyblogger Media has used to build an amazing media, marketing, and software company. Brian Clark, founder and CEO of Copyblogger, compares the platform to Hubspot, but built on WordPress, and without the ridiculous price tag.
My own description would be a cross between Hubspot, Kajabi, Lead Pages, and Optimize Press. The power of Hubspot’s analytics and marketing automation, simplicity of use for membership and training courses of Kajabi, convenience of landing page creation of LeadPages, versatility of Optimize Press, and the SEO & social media awesomeness of WordPress.
New Rainmaker First Impressions
The following are my initial impressions, from signup through usage of all the dashboard options.
The initial setup is clear, concise, and very user friendly. No confusing options and everything is explained in detail.
Once I had completed the signup process, I received a confirmation email that payment had been processed and I could log into the customer portal area. The portal is where you access your site, account info, billing, and customer support.
I immediately logged into the dashboard of my New Rainmaker site. The interface is gorgeous! One of my largest complains about the WordPress dashboard is that for new users, as simple as it is for those of us using it on a daily basis, it still has too many options and isn’t as clean or user friendly as it could/should be. No such issues here. The typography, readability, and guided tour walkthrough left me with a sense of “this is easy, anybody can do this!”
One of the nice things within the dashboard is the help section, which includes a Knowledge Base, Guided Tours, Get Help/Customer Support, and a link to your Account Portal. All of these resources are readily available via the “help” button on the top admin bar. You can navigate the different sections, or search for a specific question via the search box. Very convenient.
The knowledge base is extremely helpful for first-time users of New Rainmaker, or those unfamiliar with WordPress. There is an overview about each section of the platform which makes it easy to get your questions answered when confused. You can also search through all the topics via the handy search box at the top of the page.
When you log into the dashboard for the first time, you’re automatically guided through a site tour, showing and explaining where everything is and how to use it. First time users will REALLY appreciate this.
If you’re unable to find an answer to your question(s) via the knowledge base or guided tour, this is where you fill out an official support request.
Final thoughts on the Help section
This is probably one of the best built in features of New Rainmaker. It’s so easy to find an answer to your question about the platform and if you can’t, getting support is only an email away.
Under the “Design” section, there are multiple options to choose from in setting up and customizing your site: Themes, Appearance, Menus, Content Areas, Slider, Dynamic Sidebars, Custom CSS, Forms, Maintenance Mode, and Social Sharing. All of these “sub sections” can be rearranged via drag and drop function so that you can change the placement of them to your own preference.
When you go to the “Themes” section of the dashboard it gives you the option to import demo content into the widget areas. How convenient! For someone new to WordPress, this is a great feature so they can see exactly where and how content can be used within the default widget areas. Since all the theme options are Genesis Pro themes from StudioPress, when importing dummy content it sets up the site exactly as the theme demos.
This option makes use of the WordPress customizer. You can choose a favicon, upload a custom header, change the site title & tagline, choose background image(s), set navigation menus, choose what displays on the home/front page, adjust entry/meta info, and customize the footer.
The menus section of the dashboard is very similar to the standard WordPress menu settings page, but slimmed down and cleaned up slightly.
This is the renamed WordPress widget settings page. In my opinion, it’s a much better name than the standard WP naming. I was somewhat surprised that the individual widget options had not been renamed to more easily identify what they do. Example: if someone is not familiar with WordPress & Genesis already, they probably will not know that Genesis eNews Extended is an email signup plugin widget. I’m also surprised that the Calendar and Tag Cloud widgets haven’t been removed.
The built in slider option appears to be using the Genesis Responsive Slider plugin, which I think is somewhat limiting, as you can only choose from one type of taxonomy or post type. Soliloquy would have been a much better choice in my opinion, as you can directly upload pictures and choose any number of linking options. The Genesis Responsive Slider is just too limiting. You have the choice of choosing to include/exclude by post ID, but many users will not know where or how to find the post ID.
This is a great idea, but could use some additional explanation on it’s usage directly on the page. It also asks for an ID, and again, many users will not know how to find this.
For those who want to get their hands dirty customizing the CSS of their chosen theme, this is where you do it. My guess is that most users will not be utilizing this section, but for those who want something more than the default themes provided, this is a great option to have.
I was surprised the New Rainmaker Platform appears to be using Ninja Forms, as all of the StudioPress themes have always made use of Gravity Forms in the past. The form settings and options are pretty straight forward. Not as many options and conditional logic as Gravity Forms (which I’m much more familiar with), but it’s simple enough for new users to get the hang of.
One thing about this section that I found odd is when I click to create a new form, I’m taken out of the “Design” section and into the “Content” section.
This is an option that every WordPress install should come bundled with. Simple and easy. The options to choose from are: Maintenance Mode Off, Sales Page, and Coming Soon. You also have the ability to select a minimum user level to access the site when enabled.
One strange thing is that only on the Maintenance Mode screen did the top dashboard navigation show up. I like the idea, but it should give the option to go back to the prior screen, not list all the options as they are already laid out in the left sidebar.
When I click on this it actually takes me to the sharing icons settings which is located under the main dashboard section. Very strange that it’s located there when listed under design. Settings wise, this is using the fantastic Genesis Simple Shares plugin, which I’ve been testing out for several months, and feel it’s probably one of the easiest and slim social sharing plugins available. Options include Google+, Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest, Linkedin, and Stumbleupon.
Final thoughts on the Design section
My only complaints with the design section is that when you go into a sub-section, there isn’t a “back” button or navigation to get directly back to the previous section. You have to click the “Design” option in the sidebar to get back. Use of a dashboard top navigation, breadcrumbs or something similar would make it easier to know exactly where you are while editing.
Under the “Content” section, you can choose from Posts, Pages, Landing Pages, Podcasts, Media, Forums, Post Categories, Post Tags, and Import/Export.
Posts & Pages
Both of these sections are very similar to the default WordPress editors, except they have better colors and typography. One of huge benefits of using the New Rainmaker Platform is that Scribe content optimization is included at no additional charge. This is one of the best SEO and content optimization services around and it’s built directly into the post and page editor so you can correctly optimize your content for both human readers and Google.
When creating a new landing page, you have the option to choose from several pre-designed templates, similar to choosing a theme in the Design section.
The landing pages are a WordPress custom post type created just for this type of content, but that’s where the similarities to standard WordPress CPTs end. The editor is (I think) a vastly updated and improved version of Copyblogger’s Premise software. There are built in sections for page headings, sub headings, calls to action, testimonials, pricing tables, social sharing, and more. You can also upload an individual logo and background image. There are built in SEO options more advanced than the default Genesis options, but simpler than Yoast’s WordPress SEO plugin.
This is a great feature. It’s a custom post type built for podcast episodes that includes meta fields specifically tailored to podcasting, such as built in audio player, file size, episode length, ability to block from iTunes, and SEO options. Although not every user will need or want it, the fact it’s built into the platform reduces a huge barrier to entry for those who want to start podcasting.
Everyone wants a forum for a membership site, and New Rainmaker has it built into their platform using bbPress. But it’s much simpler than installing bbPress yourself. All of the confusing settings and options have been removed. Creating a forum, or forums, is as easy as publishing a new blog post.
Post Categories & Post Tags:
You can create and edit categories and tags here. It’s pretty much the same as the default WordPress setup.
Similar to the “Tools” section of a standard WordPress site, you can import content from another WordPress.com or self-hosted site via WordPress eXtended RSS (WXR) file upload. I think WXR is what they’re now calling the .xml file. It doesn’t appear that you can (currently) import from any other platform or type of file, but I’m guessing that will be available later.
The export function allows you to choose which type of content to export from your New Rainmaker site. All content, posts, pages, landing pages, forums, topics, replies, posts, podcasts, products, coupons, orders, downloads, notices, conversion assistants can be exported if you ever want to leave the Platform.
Final Thoughts on the Content section
The content section is clean, easy to use, and organized well. I like it just as it is.
The conversion section includes: Conversion Assistant, Products, Coupons, Orders, Member Groups, and Download Manager. Like the previous sections above it, you can drag and drop to rearrange the items in the order you prefer.
The Conversion Assistant section has the option to add ebooks and download libraries. Under ebooks, you can upload your book, set pricing, and connect your email marketing auto responder service for followup and drip campaigns. The download library is almost identical in layout and options to ebooks.
This is where you create your digital products for sale. Standard title area, description, purchase price, email opt-in, thank you page links, email receipt options, and membership group availability. It’s pretty straight forward and concise, without having to really configure much.
It doesn’t appear the platform currently has the ability to add physical products that can be shipped to customers. This would be a nice addition for those who need it, but that’s obviously not the target market Copyblogger is looking to serve with New Rainmaker.
The coupon section allows you to choose between a percentage or flat rate, give it a specific name, apply to new or existing customers, have a start/end date, and redirect users to a specific page after application. It appears quite simple to manage. You can also use this section to run an affiliate program, as you can track users based upon coupon used and set a cookie timeframe.
Nothing shows up here until someone has purchased a product, but it’s similar in layout to products and coupons.
Member Groups appears to be a type of taxonomy, similar to categories or tags. The default one that displays is “free”, which I’m guessing is for the free content library already setup by default. You can create as many different member groups as needed, which is nice for those who have a lot of products and programs.
It’s not readily apparent what this section does, but I think it’s where you create specific content to download. Member Groups is linked via a meta box within the editor, so it’s linking to that taxonomy.
Final thoughts on the Conversion section
The conversion section is very clean and easy to navigate, but could use further explanation on it’s usage, as new users may be confused when first encountering it.
There are three options within the results section: Website Traffic, Forms, and Conversion Reports. As with all the others, you can drag and drop to rearrange everything in this section.
This is where you connect your Google Analytics account. What’s great about this section is that you can view and track all your analytics directly from within the New Rainmaker dashboard. So much more convenient than logging into Google Analytics to view your stats.
As can be seen in the picture below, this section has a top navigation. I wish the entire dashboard had this, as the consistency would make it much easier to navigate throughout the dashboard.
Since no one has visited my test site yet there weren’t any analytics or form submission data to display, but the option is available to choose specific forms and date ranges, along with the ability to download all form submissions. Pretty nifty.
Conversion reports gives the option to choose individual or all products, start and end date, sales, summaries, subscriptions, and renewals. These can be viewed directly from within the dashboard, or can be downloaded via CSV file for further off-line analysis.
Final thoughts on the Results section
The results section is very easy to use, and once a site is built and has traffic will be an invaluable resource to track and measure your site’s performance and conversion rates.
The education section links directly to Copyblogger’s Authority education course, which is the premier content marketing training course around. I’ve been a member of it for over a year, and have found it to be an invaluable resource on social media, SEO, and all things content and digital marketing.
Final thoughts on the Education section:
It’s great you can access all of the my.copyblogger resources and education materials, but it would be nice if it was self contained within the dashboard so you don’t have to leave the site.
As a long-time Copyblogger Media customer, I was able to get in on special introductory pricing, but even without that, at $95.00 per month or $950.00 per year, it’s a great deal.
If you were to build an individual website that includes all the features, functionality, and options of the New Rainmaker Platform, here’s what it would cost:
Synthesis Hosting: $324.00 -per year
Genesis Framework & all themes: $399.00 -one time fee
Scribe Software: $1164.00 -per year
Authority Training Course: $348.00 -per year
Membership/ecommerce Software: $99.00 -per year
Affiliate Management Software: $49.00 -per year
Form Creation Software: $39.00 -per year
Landing Page Creation Software: $197.00 -one time fee
That’s over $2500.00 in the first year alone, and this doesn’t include all the custom post types and built in help & support needed to get your site up and running.
Overall I’m quite impressed with New Rainmaker. The platform is simple, intuitive, and much more visually appealing than your typical WordPress dashboard. Copyblogger definitely got the design right on this one.
The features that would improve the usability of the platform is to have a top navigation or breadcrumb within the dashboard that always shows exactly where you are within the different sections. It’s a pain to have to hit the back button or click on one of the five section buttons in the sidebar when I only want to go back one previous step within a specific section.
The second improvement that would make for a better user experience is to have a link to individual help topics from within each section. That way if a user is confused about anything within a particular section, he could simply click “help” and would be taken to the specific help section that relates to the issue he’s experiencing. This would most likely alleviate many support requests.
Final thoughts on the New Rainmaker Platform
I really, really like the simplicity and ease of use of New Rainmaker. That being said, it isn’t for everyone. There are limitations. I think the analogy of the difference between an iPhone and an Android phone works well here. With the iPhone it’s beautiful and easy to use, but you are limited to only what Apple allows. The same applies here. If you’re content to work within the parameters of the platform, then it will be a good fit for you.
With an Android phone it’s not quite as pretty or as simple to use, but you have complete control over the software to make changes as you’d like. If you prefer the ability to tinker and change everything on your website including themes, plugins, and hosting, then New Rainmaker probably isn’t for you.
Copyblogger Media has created a game changer for bloggers and content marketers who want the ability to create beautiful membership sites, optimize and sell digital content, continue their marketing education, track their metrics, and never have to worry about the technical side of their website. If you fall into this category, then the New Rainmaker Platform might just be for you.
Have you tried out the platform yet? What do you think?
Jerod Morris says
Seth, thank you so much for this thorough, fair review. On behalf of everyone at Copyblogger, we really appreciate it. And we’re definitely taking all improvement suggestions into account as we look into making improvements for the next release.
You’re welcome, Jerod. Even though I’ve been a long time customer of almost every product Copyblogger sells, I attempt to be as objective as possible when discussing them with clients (which isn’t always easy considering how good most of them are!)
Thanks for you review Seth! I’ve just started using The platform and so far I love it. One thing I noticed is that it’s not always obvious what the settings for each section do, or that you can even modify the settings at all.
Ted, I agree, which is why I attempted to evaluate each section from the perspective of a brand new user. Was there any one particular section you found to be more confusing than the others?
James Davis says
Thanks for a great walkthrough and review…. I am also in the process of setting up a new website and in-fact a new business with “Rainmker” as a driving force in how this will business will take shape in its digital form.
I am enjoying the platform so far and very keen to delve into the world of podcasting and from what I have seen so far this makes that a fairly simple and intuitive process 🙂
Thanks Again for your info and thoughts
Thanks for your kind words, James, and I’m glad you found the review helpful. Best of luck with your upcoming podcast!
Eric Kuhn says
Great review Seth. The one thing I can’t find any documentation on is if we can have more than one site on one pricing plan. When you log into the portal it says “Your Rainmaker Sites”, so I figured we could have more than one site. Maybe once the free trial is over?
Great question Eric, and I wondered the same thing myself. The platform is technically still in beta, so I’d guess we’ll find out once the “official” launch happens.
Eric Kuhn says
Seth, Newrainmaker support just got back to me and they said its only one site per account. An additional site would be the same fee again… Hopefully they will take a second look at this. It wont be economical to pay for multiple accounts, or start new non revenue generating sites on newrainmaker. I’m testing creating a new business website on the platform, but my personal blog I guess I will have to leave on wordpress. Not going to pay an additional $95 per month for a personal blog.
Yeah, I agree. That does seem a little steep for additional accounts. I can see a smaller additional fee being added on, but not double. It may change over time though. I’m guessing all of us early beta testers giving feedback will help shape the direction it goes. We can hope so anyway, right?
Eric Kuhn says
I gave them my feedback. They made it clear, Newrainmaker really is only for revenue generated websites. That is probably the reason behind having a additional charge for each site.
That makes sense, although it would be nice if there was a discount for each additional site added on to the account…
George Cuevas says
Thanks for the write up. We are trying to figure out if we should use this or Optimize Press for our business. I use their themes and hosting already and love those products. Did you hear any downsides to hosting your podcasts here as opposed to Libsyn or Bluberry from anyone in your research?
Hey George, great question. I haven’t tested the podcast feature yet, but it has the option to either upload the audio file directly, or link to where it’s hosted elsewhere. I’m sure they have the server setup to scale, as that could definitely be a performance issue if not. I’d be curious to see what Cliff Ravenscraft from Podcast Answer Man has to say about it, as he’s the foremost expert when it comes to podcasting.
Great review here! I also signed up for the beta and am an avid fan of Copyblogger/StudioPress products. I have all of them and found Rainmaker to be a good aggregate of all of their tools. You do a great job here of evaluating Rainmaker features!
I went through a similar evaluation for a few clients of mine. I’m encouraging them to sign up and I’m going to help them build their site out on Rainmaker. I’m building a project plan and content requirement list for them so they can really see progress on Rainmaker as they build their site.
Thanks for your review and info!
Thanks for the compliment, Larry! That sounds like a great plan for clients…I would love to see if copy when finished, if you wouldn’t mind sharing 🙂
Tanya Lumere says
Fantastic passionate write up here Seth 🙂 As soon at Rainmaker was in my paws I got straight to work, and kept working into the wee hours. All very exciting. I see George here, we were both way too enthused on Twitter countin’ down the hours.
The comments here are helpful, I too have thought Rainmaker may be best for “revenue generating websites.” I do want to simplify my process and will consider if this would be good for my other “non revenue generating website.” Curious too on the cost of additional sites. It’s all very interesting.
Again, Thank you Seth for your detailed post, it’s much appreciated. Let it rain people !!
You’re welcome, Tanye!
Lancia Smith says
Thank you so much for the clear, systematic review of Rainmaker. I am currently considering Rainmaker as a platform to transition to from my current WordPress site but have also been following Michael Hyatt who is about to release his new platform “Get-Noticed”. There are some similarities between the two platforms and I wonder if you have looked at them comparatively and have thoughts you would share?
Thanks again for the great review. This is far and away the most helpful introduction to Rainmaker I’ve seen yet.
From what I understand (and I may be wrong!), Get Noticed is simply a premium WordPress theme with a lot of features and options for those looking to build a “platform” for their message. You would still need to get your own hosting account, install plugins, and all the other necessary requirements of a self-hosted WordPress website. New Rainmaker on the other hand takes away the need for all of that, as they have built it into the backend. If you want something more customizable, I’d recommend purchasing a theme from StudioPress and signing for Synthesis hosting, both of which are utilized by Rainmaker.
Lancia Smith says
Seth, thanks. I genuinely appreciate your input and need it as I try to decide how to move forward. I have a lot of respect for Synthesis hosting and while I don’t care for many of the template designs through StudioPress I love the notion of everything being so natively integrated which is something that has proven very frustrating with what I have currently. Your comments help give a scaffolding of how to understand the elements involved and think them through. Thank you again so much!
Corey Gehrold says
Just to clarify, with New Rainmaker is it not possible to add something like Revolution Slider, Gravity Forms, icon packs or other plugins like that? I just signed up but haven’t really started messing with it yet. I hope I am not limited in those respects.
Rainmaker doesn’t allow any additional plugins to be added, primarily for security reasons. The Genesis Responsive Slider and Ninja Forms are already included, so they’ll meet *most* needs for those types of plugins. Genesis Simple Shares and Simple Social Icons are included for social media sharing and linking, but that’s it. As I mentioned at the end of the review, the platform isn’t for everyone, and it is a closed system, but for those who it works for, it does it very well. Hope that’s helpful!
Corey Gehrold says
Yep. That helps a bunch. Thanks, Seth! From what I’ve seen, it’s a great platform and it will work for our needs.
Super! Glad you found the info helpful.
Thanks for the awesome review Seth. This has been the most helpful one i’ve seen so far. With the digital products I plan to sell I will need to also ship out an actual item to go with the online content. Is there a way on this platform to collect my customers’s addresses so I could mail something out to them?
Hi Ryan, thanks for the compliment. Since you have the ability to create custom forms, I think you should be able build one the requires a customer’s mailing address.
Ryan Hughes says
Nice review, what is your take on the rainmaker platform for service based sites, such as a link building agency (with a natural lack of coding and design skills )?
I really couldn’t say. It’s a great platform for bloggers and content producers, but not sure if it would allow the flexibility you need for something like this. You could always give it a try for 30 days to test it out.
Rhonda Hurwitz says
Seth, great, thorough review. What is the process to import a current WordPress site? Is it like rebuilding an entire site? And what is the process to get help … is there a phone # or just email tickets? PS I’d love to see a comparison to Hubspot basic but I guess that will have to be another blog post:)
Have you ever imported/exported content from a WordPress site before? It’s pretty much the same process. On your current WP site, go to the Dashboard > Tools > Export, and it will save a file that you can then upload to the Rainmaker dashboard under Content > Import.
I think they currently only have email support for the platform, as do most web host and software providers.
Hope that helps!
Reginald Chan says
Thanks for the write up. To be honest, it looks awesome and appreciate it.
My only concern is the limited ability to do pop up and light boxes. I would wish they could tools like optinmonster:-)
Looking forward for it.
I agree. OptinMonster is a fantastic tool for collecting email address. Since they’re going to be building out their own email platform, hopefully this functionality will be baked in as well.
Thanks for explaining this so well Seth. Haven’t had a chance to check Rainmaker out yet. I like your Apple vs Android example. I guess it I like having a site on WordPress.com. You only have whatever functionality they will allow. Although there is a lot of it ????.
Having to pay separately for more than one site seems steep. Any idea what kind of payment gateway is used for the products?
As you can see, there are lots of questions…maybe I should just try it out.
Seth Spears says
Hi Pragati, I think Rainmaker is using Brain Tree as the built in payment gateway.
I’d definitely recommend trying out the free trial. That’s really the only way you’ll be able to tell if it’s for you or not.